I've come down with a bad case of the sniffles + the cougffles and the fevffles. It's been on since Sat and not really getting any better. This is just not my week. cannot breathe. have to open mouth. mouth dry. wake up feeling like shit. go to sleep feeling like shit. the only consolation is that xy's there. but feel so bad she's doing her assignment and I'm conked out on meds on the bed. macham drug overdose. I wish... didn't wake up for breakfast again. sigh. When this is all over, we'll sleep and wake up for lunch or dinner only. Oh yeah. That's our dream.
Then again, that's us.
Wednesday, November 08, 2006
Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Wahoo! Another Blogger's fiasco!
Extremely farni read. I meant the comments by the sammyboy members at the end of the post... Personally there's nothing much to say about such people except YOU made it happen. YOU = the ones that put a tick next to the lightning bolt during the last GE Elections or any other previous elections when you had a chance to vote. What's ironical is that her insensitive pro-gov remarks are OK as endorsed by her father (even bottomer <-- is there such a word? part of the post) ha ha ha. Plus printed in newspaper sommore. Therefore gov endorses such discrimination of the lower income people la? The MP says it's ok. Freedom of speech. Yada yada. But isn't it exactly the same as racism which we (and the PAP) condone? I would think that the racial riots taught us a lesson which is why we make sure we have racial harmony day now and all the silly pictures of different races holding hands and smiling. So they're not worried that the poor won't take arms and revolt against the gov? I thought they did that in Hougang already? Unfortunately this didn't come just before elections, if not the opposition members would all have a field day... They should be very worried about this MP's siding of his daughter and in my opinion, he should rightfully be sacked for endorsing her ridiculous view. Don't tell me he has a bloody good portfolio. The fact is that on job training can ease any decent fellow with a brain in initiative into the job... and experience can be accumulated. if not, graduates no need to find work already. And tell Mr Brown that blogs are private. Or rather, tell the gov to stop regulating blogs. They do it first, then he can start siding with his daughter. And I shall not comment on her breasts.
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From: chenghuwului 19-Oct 02:15
Some of us have read the commentary, Future of Singapore, by Derek Wee, a 35 year old Singaporean. The commentary has made its rounds in cyberspace and is reproduced below for those who might not have come across it yet.
The purpose of this thread is to highlight a response to Derek Wee's commentary from a very bright RJC girl. The response is taken from her blog. She shares the same surname as Derek. Her academic achievements are impressive. She was from the elite gifted program at RGS who went on to top Singapore in the GCE 'O'-levels in 2004. She also won the Prime Minister's Book Prize for purportedly being effectively bilingual in Chinese and English (even though she often expresses her disdain for the Chinese language). And she is fluent in French. Her dad is one of the men-in-white. Naturally, hers is a highly affluent and privileged background. And without doubt too, hers is the perfect pedigree for joining the ranks of the highest echelons of the government.
Reproduced below are firstly, Ms Wee's response to Derek Wee's commentary and secondly, the original commentary by Derek Wee.
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From Ms Wee's blog:
http://www.suchvividnothing.blogspot.com/
Thursday, October 19, 2006
mom's friend sent her some blog post by some bleeding stupid 40-year old singaporean called derek wee (WHY do all the idiots have my surname why?!) whining about how singapore is such an insecure place, how old ppl (ie, 40 and above) fear for their jobs, how the pool of foreign "talent" (dismissively chucked between inverted commas) is really a tsunami that will consume us all (no actually he didn't say that, he probably said Fouren Talern Bery Bad.), how the reason why no one wants kids is that they're a liability in this world of fragile ricebowls, how the government really needs to save us from inevitable doom but they aren't because they are stick-shoved-up-ass elites who have no idea how the world works, yadayadayadayada.
i am inclined - too much, perhaps - to dismiss such people as crackpots. stupid crackpots. the sadder class. too often singaporeans - both the neighborhood poor and the red-taloned socialites - kid themselves into believing that our society, like most others, is compartmentalized by breeding. ridiculous. we are a tyranny of the capable and the clever, and the only other class is the complement.
sad derek attracted more than 50 comments praising him for his poignant views, joining him in a chorus of complaints that climax at the accusation of lack of press freedom because his all-too-true views had been rejected by the straits times forum. while i tend to gripe about how we only have one functioning newspaper too, i think the main reason for its lack of publication was that his incensed diatribe was written in pathetic little scraps that passed off as sentences, with poor spelling and no grammar.
derek, derek, derek darling, how can you expect to have an iron ricebowl or a solid future if you cannot spell?
if you're not good enough, life will kick you in the balls. that's just how things go. there's no point in lambasting the government for making our society one that is, i quote, "far too survival of fittest". it's the same everywhere. yes discrimination exists, and it is sad, but most of the time if people would prefer hiring other people over you, it's because they're better. it's so sad when people like old derek lament the kind of world that singapore will be if we make it so uncertain. go be friggin communist, if uncertainty of success offends you so much - you will certainly be poor and miserable. unless you are an arm-twisting commie bully, which, given your whiny middle-class undereducated penchant, i doubt.
then again, it's easy for me to say. my future isn't certain but i guess right now it's a lot brighter than most people's. derek will read this and brand me as an 18-year old elite, one of the sinners who will inherit the country and run his stock to the gutter. go ahead. the world is about winners and losers. it's only sad when people who could be winners are marginalised and oppressed. is dear derek starving? has dear derek been denied an education? has dear derek been forced into child prostitution? has dear derek had his clan massacred by the government?
i should think not. dear derek is one of many wretched, undermotivated, overassuming leeches in our country, and in this world. one of those who would prefer to be unemployed and wax lyrical about how his myriad talents are being abandoned for the foreigner's, instead of earning a decent, stable living as a sales assistant. it's not even about being a road sweeper. these shitbags don't want anything without "manager" and a name card.
please, get out of my elite uncaring face.
posted at 12:08 PM
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Derek Wee's original commentary which prompted Ms Wee's response above.
By Derek Wee
Oct 12, 2006
When I read the Straits Times article (dated 24 Sep) on PM Lee calling the young to be committed and make a difference to Singapore, I have so much thought about the issue.
I am 35 years old, graduated from University and gainfully employed in a multinational company. But I cannot help but feel insecure over the future of Singapore. Lets face it, it's not uncommon to hear, "when you are above 40, you are over the hill".
The government has been stressing on re-training, skills upgrading and re-adapt. The fact is, no matter how well qualified or adaptable one is, once you hit the magical 40, employers will say, "you are simply too old".
We have been focusing our resources and problem solving on low unskilled labour. But in reality, our managerial positions and skilled labour force are actually fast losing its competitiveness.
I travel around the region frequently for the past 10 years. It didn't take me long to realise how far our neighbours have come over the past decade.
They have quality skilled workers, and are less expensive. When I work with them, their analytical skills are equally good, if not better than us.
It's not new anymore. Taxi drivers are fast becoming "too early to retire, too old to work" segment of the society. I like to talk to taxi drivers whenever I am heading for the airport.
There was this driver. Eloquent and well read. He was an export manager for 12 years with an MNC. Retrenched at 40 years old. He had been searching for a job since his retrenchment.
Although he was willing to lower his pay expectations, employers were not willing to lower their prejudice. He was deemed too old. I wouldn't be surprised if we have another No. 1; having the most highly educated taxi drivers in the world.
On PM Lee calling the young to be committed and make a difference. Look around us. How dedicated can we be to Singapore when we can visualise what's in store for us after we turned 40? Then again, how committed are employers to us? But we can't blame them. They have bottom lines & shareholders' gain to answer to.
Onus is really on the government to revamp the society. A society that is not a pressure cooker. A society that does not mirror so perfectly, what survival of the fittest is....[Message truncated]
--------------- Comments from Sammyboy members
From: DanielXX 19-Oct 03:00
She writes well, but omg, if she is writing from her heart, then I truly fear for the future. In fact, although Derek's article is not published in ST, this girl's blog article should be, if only to illustrate how the young and privileged actually think. Nothing wrong with meritocracy per se, but she exhibits a very right-wing type of thinking and attitude.
From: SGCitizen 19-Oct 03:04
This photo is taken from her blog. Is she the one with G-cup, a big mole on the face and colored contact lenses? I am interested to know who is her father, with surname "Wee". You mentioned he is one of the MIW?
From: chenghuwului 19-Oct 03:08
Right on, Wee Shu Min is the one in the middle. Her dad is an MP and a top honcho in one of the GLCs.
From: Hunting for Red OCTOBER (kTuLu5) 19-Oct 03:12
Wah, she is truly of elite genes.
Neh so big.
Anyway, she is entitled to her opinions lah. My only comment is that people shouldn't yaya papaya until they walk the walk.
From: Lubehsong 19-Oct 03:19
wow the mole.it looks like she has a nipple in her face
From: AirLib 19-Oct 03:19
Well.. with this type of writing, she confirm can secure a place in the ranks of those P65 MPs gang already. Now who say bimbos are big chested and no brainers... she has got it all man.....
Should leave the flaming to other folks here... HEeee
From: teh_si 19-Oct 04:11
Her father is wee siew kim?
http://www.parliament.gov.sg/AboutUs/Org-MP-CV-WeeSiewKim.htm
From: SGCitizen 19-Oct 04:37
Is this Wee Swee Kim? Looks like he has a family of girls and all with mole on the face.
From: painneck (goutyneck) 19-Oct 04:39
This photo is taken from her blog. Is she the one with G-cup, a big mole on the face and colored contact lenses? I am interested to know who is her father, with surname "Wee". You mentioned he is one of the MIW?<
She wrote macam she got some brains and ink leh, don't get people disorientated on her G girl-cup neh neh leh.
Gifted to write maybe, not genius.
BTW How u know her neh neh is G-cup?
And here was her public apology on one of the blogs that were discussing her entry :
i apologise if i have distressed you with my tendency to rant. while i will not dispute some of the points you make in response to what i have written, i would like to bring to your attention the fact that the post in question was never meant to be a cogent response to the specific points raised in derek wee’s article. it is, quite obviously, a rant in the heat of the moment. in addition, i don’t believe that my blog has the wide readership of derek wee’s, or even your own, and my intention was more to vent my own frustrations than public denouncement.
i’d also like to clarify my use of the word “elite”. while i understand how misinterpretation may have arose, i intended to use it in irony, as a label that people assume i enjoy, and not one that i take particular pleasure in.
finally, i admit that i was harsher than i should have been, although the the crux of my belief in self-improvement and self-determination has not changed. once again, i apologise if my words have unintentionally offended you - i was under the rather naive impression that nobody reads my blog
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A lesson learnt, says MP and dad Wee Siew Kim:
'WHAT she said did come across as insensitive. The language was stronger than what most people could take.
But she wrote in a private blog and I feel that her privacy has been violated. After all, they were the rantings of an 18-year-old among friends.
I think if you cut through the insensitivity of the language, her basic point is reasonable, that is, that a well-educated university graduate who works for a multinational company should not be bemoaning about the Government and get on with the challenges in life.
Nonetheless, I have counselled her to learn from it. Some people cannot take the brutal truth and that sort of language, so she ought to learn from it.
In our current desire to encourage more debate, especially through the Internet, our comments must be tempered with sensitivity.
I will not gag her, since she's 18 and should be able to stand by what she says.
The new media of the Internet is such that if you don't like what she has said, you have the right of rebuttal.
Hopefully, after the discussion, everyone will be the richer for it. As a parent, I may not have inculcated the appropriate level of sensitivity, but she has learnt a lesson, and it's good that she has learnt it at such an early stage in life.'
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From: chenghuwului 19-Oct 02:15
Some of us have read the commentary, Future of Singapore, by Derek Wee, a 35 year old Singaporean. The commentary has made its rounds in cyberspace and is reproduced below for those who might not have come across it yet.
The purpose of this thread is to highlight a response to Derek Wee's commentary from a very bright RJC girl. The response is taken from her blog. She shares the same surname as Derek. Her academic achievements are impressive. She was from the elite gifted program at RGS who went on to top Singapore in the GCE 'O'-levels in 2004. She also won the Prime Minister's Book Prize for purportedly being effectively bilingual in Chinese and English (even though she often expresses her disdain for the Chinese language). And she is fluent in French. Her dad is one of the men-in-white. Naturally, hers is a highly affluent and privileged background. And without doubt too, hers is the perfect pedigree for joining the ranks of the highest echelons of the government.
Reproduced below are firstly, Ms Wee's response to Derek Wee's commentary and secondly, the original commentary by Derek Wee.
*************************
From Ms Wee's blog:
http://www.suchvividnothing.blogspot.com/
Thursday, October 19, 2006
mom's friend sent her some blog post by some bleeding stupid 40-year old singaporean called derek wee (WHY do all the idiots have my surname why?!) whining about how singapore is such an insecure place, how old ppl (ie, 40 and above) fear for their jobs, how the pool of foreign "talent" (dismissively chucked between inverted commas) is really a tsunami that will consume us all (no actually he didn't say that, he probably said Fouren Talern Bery Bad.), how the reason why no one wants kids is that they're a liability in this world of fragile ricebowls, how the government really needs to save us from inevitable doom but they aren't because they are stick-shoved-up-ass elites who have no idea how the world works, yadayadayadayada.
i am inclined - too much, perhaps - to dismiss such people as crackpots. stupid crackpots. the sadder class. too often singaporeans - both the neighborhood poor and the red-taloned socialites - kid themselves into believing that our society, like most others, is compartmentalized by breeding. ridiculous. we are a tyranny of the capable and the clever, and the only other class is the complement.
sad derek attracted more than 50 comments praising him for his poignant views, joining him in a chorus of complaints that climax at the accusation of lack of press freedom because his all-too-true views had been rejected by the straits times forum. while i tend to gripe about how we only have one functioning newspaper too, i think the main reason for its lack of publication was that his incensed diatribe was written in pathetic little scraps that passed off as sentences, with poor spelling and no grammar.
derek, derek, derek darling, how can you expect to have an iron ricebowl or a solid future if you cannot spell?
if you're not good enough, life will kick you in the balls. that's just how things go. there's no point in lambasting the government for making our society one that is, i quote, "far too survival of fittest". it's the same everywhere. yes discrimination exists, and it is sad, but most of the time if people would prefer hiring other people over you, it's because they're better. it's so sad when people like old derek lament the kind of world that singapore will be if we make it so uncertain. go be friggin communist, if uncertainty of success offends you so much - you will certainly be poor and miserable. unless you are an arm-twisting commie bully, which, given your whiny middle-class undereducated penchant, i doubt.
then again, it's easy for me to say. my future isn't certain but i guess right now it's a lot brighter than most people's. derek will read this and brand me as an 18-year old elite, one of the sinners who will inherit the country and run his stock to the gutter. go ahead. the world is about winners and losers. it's only sad when people who could be winners are marginalised and oppressed. is dear derek starving? has dear derek been denied an education? has dear derek been forced into child prostitution? has dear derek had his clan massacred by the government?
i should think not. dear derek is one of many wretched, undermotivated, overassuming leeches in our country, and in this world. one of those who would prefer to be unemployed and wax lyrical about how his myriad talents are being abandoned for the foreigner's, instead of earning a decent, stable living as a sales assistant. it's not even about being a road sweeper. these shitbags don't want anything without "manager" and a name card.
please, get out of my elite uncaring face.
posted at 12:08 PM
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Derek Wee's original commentary which prompted Ms Wee's response above.
By Derek Wee
Oct 12, 2006
When I read the Straits Times article (dated 24 Sep) on PM Lee calling the young to be committed and make a difference to Singapore, I have so much thought about the issue.
I am 35 years old, graduated from University and gainfully employed in a multinational company. But I cannot help but feel insecure over the future of Singapore. Lets face it, it's not uncommon to hear, "when you are above 40, you are over the hill".
The government has been stressing on re-training, skills upgrading and re-adapt. The fact is, no matter how well qualified or adaptable one is, once you hit the magical 40, employers will say, "you are simply too old".
We have been focusing our resources and problem solving on low unskilled labour. But in reality, our managerial positions and skilled labour force are actually fast losing its competitiveness.
I travel around the region frequently for the past 10 years. It didn't take me long to realise how far our neighbours have come over the past decade.
They have quality skilled workers, and are less expensive. When I work with them, their analytical skills are equally good, if not better than us.
It's not new anymore. Taxi drivers are fast becoming "too early to retire, too old to work" segment of the society. I like to talk to taxi drivers whenever I am heading for the airport.
There was this driver. Eloquent and well read. He was an export manager for 12 years with an MNC. Retrenched at 40 years old. He had been searching for a job since his retrenchment.
Although he was willing to lower his pay expectations, employers were not willing to lower their prejudice. He was deemed too old. I wouldn't be surprised if we have another No. 1; having the most highly educated taxi drivers in the world.
On PM Lee calling the young to be committed and make a difference. Look around us. How dedicated can we be to Singapore when we can visualise what's in store for us after we turned 40? Then again, how committed are employers to us? But we can't blame them. They have bottom lines & shareholders' gain to answer to.
Onus is really on the government to revamp the society. A society that is not a pressure cooker. A society that does not mirror so perfectly, what survival of the fittest is....[Message truncated]
--------------- Comments from Sammyboy members
From: DanielXX 19-Oct 03:00
She writes well, but omg, if she is writing from her heart, then I truly fear for the future. In fact, although Derek's article is not published in ST, this girl's blog article should be, if only to illustrate how the young and privileged actually think. Nothing wrong with meritocracy per se, but she exhibits a very right-wing type of thinking and attitude.
From: SGCitizen 19-Oct 03:04
This photo is taken from her blog. Is she the one with G-cup, a big mole on the face and colored contact lenses? I am interested to know who is her father, with surname "Wee". You mentioned he is one of the MIW?
From: chenghuwului 19-Oct 03:08
Right on, Wee Shu Min is the one in the middle. Her dad is an MP and a top honcho in one of the GLCs.
From: Hunting for Red OCTOBER (kTuLu5) 19-Oct 03:12
Wah, she is truly of elite genes.
Neh so big.
Anyway, she is entitled to her opinions lah. My only comment is that people shouldn't yaya papaya until they walk the walk.
From: Lubehsong 19-Oct 03:19
wow the mole.it looks like she has a nipple in her face
From: AirLib 19-Oct 03:19
Well.. with this type of writing, she confirm can secure a place in the ranks of those P65 MPs gang already. Now who say bimbos are big chested and no brainers... she has got it all man.....
Should leave the flaming to other folks here... HEeee
From: teh_si 19-Oct 04:11
Her father is wee siew kim?
http://www.parliament.gov.sg/AboutUs/Org-MP-CV-WeeSiewKim.htm
From: SGCitizen 19-Oct 04:37
Is this Wee Swee Kim? Looks like he has a family of girls and all with mole on the face.
From: painneck (goutyneck) 19-Oct 04:39
This photo is taken from her blog. Is she the one with G-cup, a big mole on the face and colored contact lenses? I am interested to know who is her father, with surname "Wee". You mentioned he is one of the MIW?<
She wrote macam she got some brains and ink leh, don't get people disorientated on her G girl-cup neh neh leh.
Gifted to write maybe, not genius.
BTW How u know her neh neh is G-cup?
And here was her public apology on one of the blogs that were discussing her entry :
i apologise if i have distressed you with my tendency to rant. while i will not dispute some of the points you make in response to what i have written, i would like to bring to your attention the fact that the post in question was never meant to be a cogent response to the specific points raised in derek wee’s article. it is, quite obviously, a rant in the heat of the moment. in addition, i don’t believe that my blog has the wide readership of derek wee’s, or even your own, and my intention was more to vent my own frustrations than public denouncement.
i’d also like to clarify my use of the word “elite”. while i understand how misinterpretation may have arose, i intended to use it in irony, as a label that people assume i enjoy, and not one that i take particular pleasure in.
finally, i admit that i was harsher than i should have been, although the the crux of my belief in self-improvement and self-determination has not changed. once again, i apologise if my words have unintentionally offended you - i was under the rather naive impression that nobody reads my blog
--------------------
A lesson learnt, says MP and dad Wee Siew Kim:
'WHAT she said did come across as insensitive. The language was stronger than what most people could take.
But she wrote in a private blog and I feel that her privacy has been violated. After all, they were the rantings of an 18-year-old among friends.
I think if you cut through the insensitivity of the language, her basic point is reasonable, that is, that a well-educated university graduate who works for a multinational company should not be bemoaning about the Government and get on with the challenges in life.
Nonetheless, I have counselled her to learn from it. Some people cannot take the brutal truth and that sort of language, so she ought to learn from it.
In our current desire to encourage more debate, especially through the Internet, our comments must be tempered with sensitivity.
I will not gag her, since she's 18 and should be able to stand by what she says.
The new media of the Internet is such that if you don't like what she has said, you have the right of rebuttal.
Hopefully, after the discussion, everyone will be the richer for it. As a parent, I may not have inculcated the appropriate level of sensitivity, but she has learnt a lesson, and it's good that she has learnt it at such an early stage in life.'
Tuesday, October 10, 2006
Vote Now~ Singapore's #1 Movie Fan
For those of you that have borrowed DVDs and stuff from me over the years... it's partially (not totally) due to #7. So vote for #7 and you may win hampers. Or free tickets. Or whatnot. And you can vote more than once.
Vote by clicking on the question mark here:
i have totally forgotten how to set up a link. But do pop a vote online if you're free.
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Who among these 40 shortlisted entries from 8 DAYS and I-Weekly deserves to be crowned Singapore’s No.1 Movie Fan?
You vote, you decide. Voters stand to win attractive prizes and premiums!
The Movie Fan with the highest vote will get 1 year of FREE movies at Golden Village cinemas, 2 pairs of tickets to attend the grand opening of GV VivoCity and 1 year 8 DAYS/ I-weekly subscription.
The other 19 shortlisted entries will each receive a set of consolation prize of 2 pairs of GV VivoCity complimentary passes and a goodie bag.
10 lucky voters who root for the Singapore’s No. 1 Movie Fan will each receive a pair of GV VivoCity movie passes and a set of movie premiums. Cast your vote NOW for your Movie Fan from 8 Days and I-weekly!
Closing Date: Oct 16, 2006
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You know who I guess the winner's gonna be? Somebody that's got deep pockets and doesn't mind spending $100 smsing for himself just to get 1 year's free movie passes. Most of them are just LOOK AT MY TICKET STUBSSSSSS MY TICKET STUBBBSSSSS.. wah lau eh. You want ticket stub i go box office take from the floor la. Cuckoo nathan one some of them. some are like LOOKAT MY POSTERS. I HAVE POSTER = I AM #1 FAN. Try harder. I have a zillion posters more than you and almost every movie maniac and neca movie figure made but I'm not even on the list. (Because I didn't apply~ duh. haha) Form over substance. No. 1 movie fan should be substance. Not by the amount of movie memorabilia junk he has. (hey i spelt it correctly without needing a spellcheck~)
BACK TO INTERNET BANKING LAW
Monday, October 09, 2006
Fight Fraud... Right...
I already know the answer before I sent my comments but I still sent it anyway..."different laws e.g. common and civil law... not cost effective... if processing small claims cross-jurisdictionally..." but isn't that the whole point of the small claims tribunal? To help pursue justice for the everyday man that kenna non-payment/fraud/petty crime? Why cannot extend overseas? Unrealistic? I don't think so. Government so much money, now everything also can e-online already. They can have macham e-court I don't believe they cannot global e-court. Or it can be a simple matter of a judge coming up with his opinion on the case here, then sending the documents via email (or through their superb court system) and the other side opening it up and speaking with the accused, peruse the evidence and opinion in front of him, then the 2 judges correspond and reach a verdict. Not cost effective because the claims are too small? KNN it IS a SMALL CLAIMS TRIBUNAL anyway right? That's your bloody purpose.
Will my invention fail for non-obviousness? NO! Because it's an idea, not an invention! hurhurhur...
Saturday, September 23, 2006
The One with the Engineer
Monday, September 18, 2006 <-- from xy's blog
Joke of the Day...Engineers! *tsk tsk tsk*
DUring tutorial for History of military thoughts today, my lecturer from Australia told a very funny joke to demonstrate the point on how engineers are not the smartest people around. Well at least I thought it were hilarious. My kind of joke, and sorry to those engineers out there reading this...I'm not apologetic. Heeh
When a lecturer says "Good Morning" to a class from Arts, the students will reply by nodding their head.
When a lecturer says "Good Morning" to a class from Science, the students will echo back the same words.
When a lecturer says "Good Morning" to a class from Engineering....they'll write it down.
posted by Cloud @ 9:07 PM
An engineer replied to it:
Anonymous said...
In the working world,
When someone says good morning to an engineer, the engineer nods his head in reply.
When someone says good morning to a business grad, the business grad nods his head in reply.
When someone says good morning to an arts grad, the arts grad replies to the engineern, "Good morning boss, coffee with milk?"
10:17 PM
Cloud said...
That is only if the engineer thinks small...(which further demonstrates my initial point that they are)
When a history graduate walks into a class his/her students will say "Good morning teacher!"
hurhurhur... ;p
8:31 AM
우찌유 said...
I'm sorry 'anonymous', but you just don't make sense. If you're trying to say that engineers are 'higher up' than arts grads, your joke just isn't phrased correctly. (which illustrates the point that engineers just don't know how to work with language. they copy but they dunno how to apply. hurhurhur) I'm not against a good joke. but a bad joke. no no no no.
what your joke says is that is someone says good morning to an engineer or a businessman, they will only nod their heads in reply. but if someone says good morning to an arts grad, he will reply TO THE ENGINEER with 'good morning boss, coffee with milk?'
that's wrong in so many ways.
when you say the engineer and businessman nod their heads in reply, it is implied that they're busy. or they just couldn't care less. that's fine.
but whenever someone says good morning to an arts grad, there are 4 implications. (i) the arts grad doesn't reply to the someone and instead finds an engineer to reply to (ii) only engineers are polite enough to greet people good morning --> this also implies they're too free to go around greeting people, and there is also the conflicting view that if engineers are nice enough to greet people, why are they so mean to each other and only nod their heads in reply? (iii) that arts grads are the only nice people that reply to greetings or (iv) that the arts grad is the employee of the engineer (I guess this is what you are trying to mean). WTF is an 'engineern' anyway?
As you can see, due to the various obvious differences in implications from the statement, your punchline is fundamentally flawed. Incoherent and shows just how much of an 'engineern' you are. Wahoo! (Now that's a joke!)
If you're looking at stereotyping the jobs of an arts graduate, you might want to understand the situation first. Usually arts graduates aren't associated with working under engineers per se. So your observation is unfortunately wrong. Perhaps you might want to try illustrating the arts grad as working in the teaching line after graduation. Afterall that's where many of them go to.
No arts grad will actually work under an engineer in a plant or construction industries. It's not within their scope. Perhaps you might want to come up with a joke involving an arts grad studying all the way to get his/her degree only to be assigned to primary school and having to clean her student's backside coz he/she just shat in class. That'll be an implication of doing all the studying just to land in a position of doing what he/she didn't need all that education for. To clean up children's shit.
If you do wanna change 'someone' to 'engineer' in the joke, it'll come off like this:
When an engineer says good morning to another engineer, the other engineer nods his head in reply
--> implication, either busy or rude. that's fine.
When an engineer says good morning to a businessman, the businessman nods his head in reply
--> implication, either busy, or the engineer very irritating he don't want to talk to him.
Then you can say:
When an engineer says good morning to an arts grad, the arts grad replies: Good morning boss, coffee with milk?
--> only then can you draw the inference that he's an employee.
Might I add a line to the joke in an attempt to make it funny. Instead of 'someone' I'll be 'specific' here.
When an engineer says good morning to a lawyer, the lawyer (probably from WongP) replies to the engineer, "How? Got new case for me ah?"
(PS: You might want to know that many of the IMF delegates are arts grads. Whilst... sad to say the engineers were lacking at the meetings. I wonder why. Busy dreaming about ordering arts grads around I suppose)
9:01 AM
You sad sad little engineern.
There is also the stereotype that engineers in nus are desperate. Why?. Here's an extract from someone's blog. I randomly googled it so no offence if it's yours:
What's the course like?
Enjoyable. For one thing, u are gonna have lots of female classmates. That's a enviable position compared to other eng discipline.
KNN. come to study or pao char bo. No wonder struggling with studies la, got time to eavesdrop on girls summore:
I overheard a conversation between these two undergrads. One was complaining regarding the amount of test she has. The other was complaining regarding the projects due. I was quite curious and listened on. Horrors of horror, one had only 2 mid term tests and the other had 2 projects due. Sigh, I share my plight together with the other hundred over engine undergrads, mugging away in the day & night, burning the “mid-night oil”. 5 mid term papers my friend! Plus one essay assignment. And best of all, the test was freaking difficult.
Sigh. Gone were the slack-laid-back days in the Police Force. Time to get back to reality.
---
If they had spent less time ogling at arts girls and more time studying, they might probably be doing pretty well... You wanna slack, go back police force la. soon i shall blog about my visit to the police station. no i wasn't caught. that was last time. hurhurhur. this time my turn to lodge report... and boy was the office 'helpful'... knn...
Joke of the Day...Engineers! *tsk tsk tsk*
DUring tutorial for History of military thoughts today, my lecturer from Australia told a very funny joke to demonstrate the point on how engineers are not the smartest people around. Well at least I thought it were hilarious. My kind of joke, and sorry to those engineers out there reading this...I'm not apologetic. Heeh
When a lecturer says "Good Morning" to a class from Arts, the students will reply by nodding their head.
When a lecturer says "Good Morning" to a class from Science, the students will echo back the same words.
When a lecturer says "Good Morning" to a class from Engineering....they'll write it down.
posted by Cloud @ 9:07 PM
An engineer replied to it:
Anonymous said...
In the working world,
When someone says good morning to an engineer, the engineer nods his head in reply.
When someone says good morning to a business grad, the business grad nods his head in reply.
When someone says good morning to an arts grad, the arts grad replies to the engineern, "Good morning boss, coffee with milk?"
10:17 PM
Cloud said...
That is only if the engineer thinks small...(which further demonstrates my initial point that they are)
When a history graduate walks into a class his/her students will say "Good morning teacher!"
hurhurhur... ;p
8:31 AM
우찌유 said...
I'm sorry 'anonymous', but you just don't make sense. If you're trying to say that engineers are 'higher up' than arts grads, your joke just isn't phrased correctly. (which illustrates the point that engineers just don't know how to work with language. they copy but they dunno how to apply. hurhurhur) I'm not against a good joke. but a bad joke. no no no no.
what your joke says is that is someone says good morning to an engineer or a businessman, they will only nod their heads in reply. but if someone says good morning to an arts grad, he will reply TO THE ENGINEER with 'good morning boss, coffee with milk?'
that's wrong in so many ways.
when you say the engineer and businessman nod their heads in reply, it is implied that they're busy. or they just couldn't care less. that's fine.
but whenever someone says good morning to an arts grad, there are 4 implications. (i) the arts grad doesn't reply to the someone and instead finds an engineer to reply to (ii) only engineers are polite enough to greet people good morning --> this also implies they're too free to go around greeting people, and there is also the conflicting view that if engineers are nice enough to greet people, why are they so mean to each other and only nod their heads in reply? (iii) that arts grads are the only nice people that reply to greetings or (iv) that the arts grad is the employee of the engineer (I guess this is what you are trying to mean). WTF is an 'engineern' anyway?
As you can see, due to the various obvious differences in implications from the statement, your punchline is fundamentally flawed. Incoherent and shows just how much of an 'engineern' you are. Wahoo! (Now that's a joke!)
If you're looking at stereotyping the jobs of an arts graduate, you might want to understand the situation first. Usually arts graduates aren't associated with working under engineers per se. So your observation is unfortunately wrong. Perhaps you might want to try illustrating the arts grad as working in the teaching line after graduation. Afterall that's where many of them go to.
No arts grad will actually work under an engineer in a plant or construction industries. It's not within their scope. Perhaps you might want to come up with a joke involving an arts grad studying all the way to get his/her degree only to be assigned to primary school and having to clean her student's backside coz he/she just shat in class. That'll be an implication of doing all the studying just to land in a position of doing what he/she didn't need all that education for. To clean up children's shit.
If you do wanna change 'someone' to 'engineer' in the joke, it'll come off like this:
When an engineer says good morning to another engineer, the other engineer nods his head in reply
--> implication, either busy or rude. that's fine.
When an engineer says good morning to a businessman, the businessman nods his head in reply
--> implication, either busy, or the engineer very irritating he don't want to talk to him.
Then you can say:
When an engineer says good morning to an arts grad, the arts grad replies: Good morning boss, coffee with milk?
--> only then can you draw the inference that he's an employee.
Might I add a line to the joke in an attempt to make it funny. Instead of 'someone' I'll be 'specific' here.
When an engineer says good morning to a lawyer, the lawyer (probably from WongP) replies to the engineer, "How? Got new case for me ah?"
(PS: You might want to know that many of the IMF delegates are arts grads. Whilst... sad to say the engineers were lacking at the meetings. I wonder why. Busy dreaming about ordering arts grads around I suppose)
9:01 AM
You sad sad little engineern.
There is also the stereotype that engineers in nus are desperate. Why?. Here's an extract from someone's blog. I randomly googled it so no offence if it's yours:
What's the course like?
Enjoyable. For one thing, u are gonna have lots of female classmates. That's a enviable position compared to other eng discipline.
KNN. come to study or pao char bo. No wonder struggling with studies la, got time to eavesdrop on girls summore:
I overheard a conversation between these two undergrads. One was complaining regarding the amount of test she has. The other was complaining regarding the projects due. I was quite curious and listened on. Horrors of horror, one had only 2 mid term tests and the other had 2 projects due. Sigh, I share my plight together with the other hundred over engine undergrads, mugging away in the day & night, burning the “mid-night oil”. 5 mid term papers my friend! Plus one essay assignment. And best of all, the test was freaking difficult.
Sigh. Gone were the slack-laid-back days in the Police Force. Time to get back to reality.
---
If they had spent less time ogling at arts girls and more time studying, they might probably be doing pretty well... You wanna slack, go back police force la. soon i shall blog about my visit to the police station. no i wasn't caught. that was last time. hurhurhur. this time my turn to lodge report... and boy was the office 'helpful'... knn...
Thursday, September 21, 2006
The thick skinned nerd is BACCKKKKKKK~~
Interesting turn of events. Nerdy boy's getting AGGRESSIVE!!!! wahoo... Here's a peek at his blog: I don't want him tracing all the new traffic to my site. BEWARE though. When u think that the contents are written by a 23 year old individual... you will realise that it's damn creepy... Skali he get MORE AGGRESSIVE. Then very mafan for the poor girls. Yeah. Her fren. He's into CARPET BOMBING these days.
Anyway.. actual event went like this: A was late for class and msg her fren to save a seat for her. so she did, and they colaborated to leave immediately after class so that the nerd can't follow them. easy for them to think that way.. considering he was at the back of the class. what happened was once lesson ended, they packed and chiong out.. aiming to go girls toilet where nerd can't follow. but SWAY ah. he DAMN FAST. bashed through the class and cornered them before they reached the toilet..
Advertisement >april wants a special menition in this entry cos she's with him at BLARDY CONSTRUCTION CLASS>
"Hey, you all want to meet up during the holidays?"
A: meet for what?
"Can exchange notes or meet for tea/coffee or chat" <-- along these lines
A: no.
A's fren: er... er.... i'm going Batam.
"When are you coming back?"
A: I have to go toilet now. bye bye!
When reading his blog, do watch out for instances where he says he's supposed to meet someone for lunch then she cannot make it. Read between the lines. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HAVE LUNCH WITH HIM. also see how he always tries to meet GIRLS for lunch. or basically to go out. I don't need to read psychology I also know that he's in desperate need for ASSERTION. By asking girls out he's basically trying to assert himself that people still care about him. Or that he actually exists in society.
Isn't that sad?
By imposing himself on others just to assure himself that he has a reason to live... it's NOT FAIR TO THE OTHERS. why must other people be forced to tolerate his unwanted presence just because he's a sad individual?
Some people should just understand that sometimes, it's not about the trying. It's about being who they are and instead of forcing people that don't want to be with you to eat lunch with you, go seek out your fellow nerds from science club or something. There's a fine line between annoyance and friendliness.
sad to say, you just don't get it.
Anyway.. actual event went like this: A was late for class and msg her fren to save a seat for her. so she did, and they colaborated to leave immediately after class so that the nerd can't follow them. easy for them to think that way.. considering he was at the back of the class. what happened was once lesson ended, they packed and chiong out.. aiming to go girls toilet where nerd can't follow. but SWAY ah. he DAMN FAST. bashed through the class and cornered them before they reached the toilet..
Advertisement >april wants a special menition in this entry cos she's with him at BLARDY CONSTRUCTION CLASS>
"Hey, you all want to meet up during the holidays?"
A: meet for what?
"Can exchange notes or meet for tea/coffee or chat" <-- along these lines
A: no.
A's fren: er... er.... i'm going Batam.
"When are you coming back?"
A: I have to go toilet now. bye bye!
When reading his blog, do watch out for instances where he says he's supposed to meet someone for lunch then she cannot make it. Read between the lines. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HAVE LUNCH WITH HIM. also see how he always tries to meet GIRLS for lunch. or basically to go out. I don't need to read psychology I also know that he's in desperate need for ASSERTION. By asking girls out he's basically trying to assert himself that people still care about him. Or that he actually exists in society.
Isn't that sad?
By imposing himself on others just to assure himself that he has a reason to live... it's NOT FAIR TO THE OTHERS. why must other people be forced to tolerate his unwanted presence just because he's a sad individual?
Some people should just understand that sometimes, it's not about the trying. It's about being who they are and instead of forcing people that don't want to be with you to eat lunch with you, go seek out your fellow nerds from science club or something. There's a fine line between annoyance and friendliness.
sad to say, you just don't get it.
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